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“Chief?” This single address, a nickname, uttered by Richard Jenkins, conveys the full depth of Sally, the Midwestern mother portrayed by Margo Martindale in John Krasinski’s sophomore directorial turn, The Hollars. She’s the matriarch at the helm of a family of men; she’s the unassuming anchor of a complex heartland story. It’s a phenomenon Martindale has gotten to know well, beginning with her own mother—whom she describes as a housewife turned businesswoman—and extending throughout the characters she’s played over her legendary, decades-long career.

This is the woman that Martindale met in Sally, a mother of two boys (Sharlto Copley, Krasinski) and wife to a loyal but dependent husband (Jenkins). This is a woman who, even in the face of a developed brain tumor, can keep her charge among a shaken family.

“I keep all the books,” she confidently says after her son tells her that her husband’s business is bankrupt. She responds without pause, and with the agency of a joke that only she is truly in on: she’s always been the one in charge.

Krasinski told Martindale early on that her character is “the chief, and that the whole family revolves around me,” the actress told Media at a press junket for the film in New York City. “And I went with that. I knew that my word was the final word.”

Martindale has played other Midwestern matriarchs before, notably in the 2013 adaptation of August: Osage County. There, Martindale was Mattie Faye Aiken, a decidedly cruel mother who constantly berates her son. But despite their shared brand of Midwestern moxie, Martindale is careful not to make the comparison between that character and Sally.

“Well, I think she’s the boss of that family, and that would be about as far as I can go,” she says, laughing aloud at the thought. “Because Sally is a good mother, and I don’t think Mattie Faye is a good mother.”

Sally holds her reserve for her family’s sake, right up to her breaking point—a place, it’s clear, she doesn’t often go. But Martindale didn’t have trouble feeling everything her character was feeling: “I think that was about pushing it down, pushing it down, pushing it down,” she says. “Not wanting anyone to be afraid, wanting to get things clear for all my boys and to not think about what was coming.” But when Sally did reach that height of emotion, Martindale continues, “That really happened for me. The whole movie really happened for me.”

Martindale’s connection with this material is clear from the way she talks about her fictional family as if it were real: “There was a lot of singing in our house," she says, hearkening back to a scene in which Sally’s boys croon a rendition of the Indigo Girls’ “Closer to Fine” as she’s wheeled off to surgery. “It was not unreal that it happened. It was something that they had done for me for years. I’d say, ‘Sing for me boys.’”

Martindale, who has five nominations and two wins under her belt—most recently garnering a statue in 2015 for her role as Claudia in The Americans—is used to being labeled a “character actress”; her character’s name on the cartoon series BoJack Horseman is literally “Character Actress Margo Martindale.” Her response to that phrase? “It means acting,” she says, naming her frequent colleague Meryl Streep as another actor who she says identifies with this label.

Yes, people actually approach her on the street and say, “Hi, Character Actress Margo Martindale.” But living that label also allows Martindale to seamlessly navigate the characters she inhabits, from Sally to Claudia to Giovanni Ribisi’s grandmother, Audrey, in Sneaky Pete.

“It’s all about work,” she says. “You know, I’ve played every age that I am. And when I was younger onstage, I played a lot of people that were older than me. So, it’s wonderful to play the age that I am and not have to act older. It’s sort of nice just to be.”

As for her turn in The Hollars, in which she acts mostly from the confines of her hospital bed—propped up against sterile-white pillows—Martindale felt as though she was truly a member of a new, specially formed Midwestern clan. “I’m surprised at how deeply real this family came for me and for all of us,” the actress says. “We really were there almost doing a home video. It’s very immediate.”

A home video of a family Martindale knows—and she’s the chief in charge.
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